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BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:52:06 PM »
BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days

www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26888421

I\'m not sure if this will apply to TV only.
If it applies to radio it may have an effect on the naming conventions
used for the download urls such as:

mms://wm.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4fmcoyopa/radio_4_fm_-_monday_1415.wma

simply because there will be more than one monday in each 30 period.

Read more: http://radioarchive.proboards.com/thread/1473/bbc-iplayer-shows-available-days#ixzz2xwPrjuOI

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Re: BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 06:39:57 AM »
I\'ve only just noticed that if a URL for a stream isn\'t reused - as most URLs are reused, weekly - then the file seems to hang around on the BBC\'s server for longer than the official 7 days. For instance:

http://wm.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4fmcoyopa/radio_4_fm_-_monday_2345.wma

(a URL which I just accidentally generated) still gives you an episode of Marcus du Sautoy\'s A Brief History of Mathematics.

http://wm.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4fmcoyopa/radio_4_fm_-_thursday_1455.wma

gives you an episode of Five Writers in Search of Their Character from the Thursday before last.

(I don\'t have enough schedule information on this computer to do enough experiments, but I\'ll try later on another computer.)

So perhaps a change of naming convention is not only necessary but also sufficient, if they want to extend the 7-day period?

If so, then I hate to think what kind of ugly naming convention they might come up with, if they do intend to make the new retention period exactly 30 days! 28 days would have been more reassuring. :(

(I haven\'t read the Radio Archive article yet - because they require you to register even to read the forum - so excuse me if I\'m just going over ground that\'s already been covered there.)

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Re: BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 08:56:25 AM »
With urls like this

http://wm.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4fmcoyopa/radio_4_fm_-_thursday_1455.wma

the only disappear if they are overwritten. WIth rare starting times they stay on the server for
ages - for example some 2hr  Radio Proms from last year are still there to be downloaded.

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Re: BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 01:53:01 AM »
Are these *.wma streams connected technically to the iPlayer in any way, or could the BBC increase the retention period for the iPlayer to 30 days while leaving the *.wma streams just as they are, names unchanged, and still only available for 7 days?

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Re: BBC iPlayer shows to be made available for 30 days
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 02:35:44 AM »
No idea. But I have a feeling that monkeying around with these links may be the cause of the problems I\'ve been having.
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