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Announcements / Re: Farewell JANARU
« on: August 22, 2018, 08:14:40 PM »
Such sad news.    By one of those weird coincidences the day after I got Tru's message, I pulled a book from a shelf and a piece of paper fell out with an  epitaph I had noted some years ago fell out,  I quote it as I thought it so like Jan.:

The Sun be warm and kind to you.

The darkest night some star shine through.

The dullest morn a radiance brew

And when dusk comes, God's hand to you.

My very best wishes to Ironeyes and any who remember me.   Sorry I have been out of touch - as Jan would say "stuff happens

The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: IT'S CHRISTMAS!!
« on: December 31, 2017, 03:31:55 PM »
Too late for Christmas, but just popped in to wish everyone all the best for the New Year.

Congratulations Granny Janny!  Btw did you get my email.

The Movie Phorum / Re: RIP
« on: April 24, 2017, 07:46:50 PM »
No it ain't so Jan.  I still listen to the Archers it seems to have been a part of my life for so long I would feel lost without it, though it was a real test of loyalty to survive the Helen and Rob Tichener saga!   I tend to fall behind and then thanks to "Listen Again" have a real orgy of catching up on the Omnibus editions!  I take it you remain faithful?

The Movie Phorum / Re: RIP
« on: April 16, 2017, 02:35:13 PM »
Good to hear from you too Jan..................Sorry I have not written more but the fact is I hardly ever listen to the radio these days.
Just a quick note now to wish you all a Very Happy Easter.

Unfortunately this is one that has been repeated on R4X so often that for me it has lost its freshness.   However for anyone who has not seen it before,, it is brilliant.  John Mortimer at his best and a brilliant and compassionate performance by David Kossoff

Radio Matters / Sara Coward (Caroline Sterling) RIP
« on: March 01, 2017, 06:22:26 PM »
I was sorry to learn from a belated check of the Archers (sorry Tru!) Website of the death of Sara Coward who played Caroline Sterling (nee Bone) in The Archers.  I was wondering why it appeared the Caroline and Oliver were being written out, and very sad to learn the reason.  There is apparently talk of her being replaced, but I rather hope not as  Sara had a very attractive and unique voice, which would be hard to duplicate.

I think the fact that along with many others I remain faithful to the Archers (with difficulty sometimes) supports the theory aired on the other thread that one clings to programmes heard in one's youth.

Caroline, to my mind, was one of the best as well as longer-standing of Ambridge residents and one of the most believable and attractive characters.   She will be sorely missed.

The Movie Phorum / Re: RIP
« on: February 28, 2017, 07:56:43 PM »
Bien venue de retour Dear Lady P,

Merci beaucoup, Tru, and hoşbulduk

Thank you also tallforaduck for your greetings, and a belated welcome to you to the Phorum.

It seems to me that there are two theories being put forward here:  one that one's tastes change with age and/or that the public "fashion " in humour changes, the other that people prefer the shows of their youth.   They are not really mutually exclusive.   I find nostalgia certainly influences some of my preferences, not only for a time, but as an expat for a place, which explains for example "To the Manor" though I realise that it is homesickness for an England that no longer exists - if indeed it ever did exist!

However, and here it is probably my own age, but I do feel out of touch with modern humour and can't think of a recent comedy show I really enjoy.

I agree with the need for identifiable characters and situations: personally I get put off by the absurd and must look out my tin hat again as I admit to not liking Fawlty Towers or the Goons.

I am not sure about comedy ageing: some certainly do, but against it is Dad's Army ,  in a generation which often does not even know who Hitler was!   I think DA stands out on its own from all the others, as Tru says a piece of genius.  Can anyone even remember "The Army Game" and the contemporary Allo Allo  is certainly dated.  I think Dad's Army certainly benefits from identifiable characters brilliantly played as well as exceptional script writing.

I think my favourite humour is play on words , viz Yes Prime Minister.   I still laugh out loud every time I see the Ronnies' "Fork Handles" episode and other similar, and I used to love Ronnie Corbet's tales in his armchair.   Also I found Dave Allen ott sometimes, some of his verbal jokes were brilliant.


The Movie Phorum / Re: RIP
« on: February 27, 2017, 09:36:30 PM »
Thank you so much Ironeyes .  I have missed you all too, though I have kept in touch with Tru and Jan,  and it is good to be back.  I have not been well and have had a few other problems, but hopefully I am stable now.  I am still finding my way round the new format, so be patient with me!

Yes I think I folow you Tallforaduck.   I think one of the words I was looking at with regard to aging was "cynical".

I like risque humour  but hate vulgarity, and I dont usually  like cruel humour or banana skin type.   I agree entirely with you about Dads Army, although with me that was the other way round, I didnt "get" it at first when I was a teenager but I appreciate the gentle humour now.
And yes "YesMinister" is a real classic and still so true today!  Other Golden Oldie gentle commedies star my namesake:  The Good Life and tTo the Manor Born.

The Movie Phorum / Re: RIP
« on: February 27, 2017, 06:18:39 PM »
It is a matter of age, I think.  When I was a teenager I thought I Love Lucy was terribly funny and sophisticated.   Watching a repeat on u  tube a few months ago , I found it rather childish and banal.      I am not sure if it is my age or that the World has become less innocent and more critical  :-\

The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: Goodbye 2015
« on: December 31, 2015, 08:40:39 PM »
Truthyness Wrote:
> All best wishes to you and yours and the Beebotron
> community.
> Above all good health in 2016
> Cheers,
> Tru

And to you Tru, and to everyone


The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: Is this news?
« on: July 18, 2015, 03:24:37 PM »
Well I take you point , Mat.    I abd many others are frequently disgusted by intrusive media interviews with recently bereaved people and those who have witnessed or been involved in some form of tragedy.   OK the public may need to know what happened - and perhaps in due course what sort ofpeople it happened to - but sticking a microphone in someone;s face and demanding their reactions before they have even had time to recovere from the immediate shock is, imho, obscene.  Perhaps in this case the lady declined (or was in no state) to be interviewed and the \"specialist police officers\" kept the press at a distance for once, so they had to rely on guesswork or hearsay.

I too am somewhat relieved to find I am not the only one with an instinct to bury my head in the sand when presented with unpalatable facts.

I also find I am inclined to react differently according to the media in which it is presented.   SEEING what is happening - even at second hand on screen, involves the emotions and the reaction \"this is horribe, I cannot stand it, turn it off\" , whereas being told about it (whether by spoken on written word) the reaction is more likely to be \"this is horrible, what can I do/be done about it?\".   Maybe a matter of generation and education - I was taught to find out facts by researching books in a library .    Either is rather academic since the answer is \"B*****r all\"!.

Anyway  I am obviously reading and watching the wrong things (likeBBC News) since the media\'s preoccupation with the sex lives and offensive excess spending on trivialies of film stars and sports personalities tends to make me sceptical about all reporting.

The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: Bias ... and so it goes!
« on: July 08, 2015, 07:37:23 PM »
Truthyness Wrote:
> **/ADF Intl calls for transparency, unbiased
> selection process/*

Excuse my igorance, TRu, but what is ADF?

As for the EU you both obviously do not understand what it is for8-)

It is not intended to serve the interests of Justice  or help ordinary people , like the elderly and disabled, who are disadvantaged by the society they live in.

It exists for the preservation of particular species and to enable them to live in the manner in which they want to be accustomed:  viz politicians who have mucked up their own countries to the extent of being unelectable and civil servants who have attended the Sir Humphrey Appleby* school of logic and diplomacy and are incapable of promulgating a policy that does not protected their vested interests or word it in terms that are intelligible to normal people,   For lesser beings of the same species who are actually still clinging on to their national posts, it also provides a much needed break from wall to wall campaigning  and impoverising taxpayers with illl thought out shemes by way of a paid holiday at said taxpayers expense in countries with lots of sun, a long sandy coastline and plenty of golf courses.

* There is actually an episode of YPM about this

The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: When will the U.S. ban guns?
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:28:37 PM »
baycruiser Wrote:
> And I don\'t think you  understand guns in America.
> The reason for the second amendment is to protect
> yourself from an over reaching government. We need
>  arming now more than ever when we have to ask
> permission from the government to do anything on
> our own property.

I have read the above three times now, and am still puzzled !  I thought the purpose of the Second Americans was to enable settlers in the days of the Wild  West to protect themselves against: Wild Animals, aboriginal inhabitants of North America (\"Red Indians\") and the English!  The second are surely now a protected species, you won the war against the third and I did not think there were that many grizzly bears running around New York these days!  

Your appear to be saying it gives you the right to shoot your own politicians - in which case I rather think some Brits might wish it had been incoporated in the Magna Carta!:D

Seriously if what you are saying is that your Government does not provide adequate protection for the individual therefore he needs to use firearms to protect himself, that is not the sign of a civilized society and  surely approving \"taking the law into one;s own hands\" and tending to vigilante action, which carries its own dangers of  illogical and prejudiced behaviour, although I know some Brits are also feeling similar insecurity.


The Pub - Open All Hours / Re: When will the U.S. ban guns?
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:05:11 PM »
baycruiser Wrote:
> I am not here to change minds, just contributing
> to the conversation. I don\'t understand how your
> culture works there and it might not be possible
> for you to understand American culture either. But
> we can\'t all be the same. It would be a dull world
> if it were.
> Disagreement is normal. We can disagree with
> someone in certain matters and still be friends
> (I say certain  because if you want to kill me, I
> cannot agree with you on that ;)). When did
> disagreement with someone mean a personal attack?
> The way people argue, you would think they were

Yes Baycruiser :   I would hate to see this Phorum go the way of some where every differing opinion seems to lead to a virulent personal attack ont he poster.   Having said that:: I think some of us rather enjoy the cut and thrust of a good argument , and get a little carried away.  

In a debate as serious as this, we should remember the words (not of Voltair but his biographer)  \"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it\"

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